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Don't you think we should see them in their underwear before deciding this?
Don't you think we should see them in their underwear before deciding this?
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 9:55 AMSounds like you need to lose the underwear for it to be an outfit.
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Thu, June 26, 2008 - 12:09 PMoh... please...uh... let's not turn the space into power exchange. -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 12:21 PMamen sister!
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Thu, June 26, 2008 - 12:32 PMThere goes my "Creepy Guy in a Towel" idea... -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 12:56 PMHere's why this is important:
it's 2am and a group of club goers wants to go someplace after their bar kicks them out. They come up the stairs looking like the "coolest" kids you never did see and when we ask them where their costume is, they ask if they can just strip down to their underwear, cause you know, it's sexy and all.
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 2:34 PMThere are a lot of people who put in time and effort to put together a costume - Yay!!
The effort to show up w. a costume adds great energy and intention to the event, and is another level of participation and contribution.
Those who show up and offer to "strip to their underwear", not so much. -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 2:52 PMAlthough I agree with you, I do have a great "But I'm the DJ's girlfriend!" story that is the exception to the rule. -
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Thu, July 3, 2008 - 11:43 AMThis wouldn't have anything to do with me, would it, Weazie? -
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Thu, July 3, 2008 - 11:53 AMWere you the DJ's girlfriend that night?
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Fri, July 4, 2008 - 11:19 AMi think he was the dj's ride.
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 2:58 PMAdd to that the inevitable sense of entitlement they have because they had to take off their pants to get in and you have a recipe for disaster. There is absolutely nothing fun about having to deal with someone who now believes the costumed freaks (of which I am a proud member) are obligated to entertain them because they paid money to get AND had to relinquish their pants.
Dear KS attendees who will have to take of their pants because they spent the entire evening trying to pull at some mission bar and failed miserably:
Please leave Medjool/Bruno's/Beauty Bar a half hour before closing time, go to the liquor store and buy some booze and go home.
Thank you
Costumed Freak (not here for your entertainment) -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Fri, June 27, 2008 - 8:51 AMI haven't been to ks. Something about dates and accompaniment not lining up.
It was my understanding that random, unaccompanied men weren't allowed in anyway.
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Sat, July 12, 2008 - 2:02 PMI concur with Dona. I think spending some time to get a costume together helps me get into the mindset and really enjoy the experience more. Plus it makes the party more fun, and easier to interact with other people when you can ask about their outfit! A fun costume doesn't have to be pricey, as my cheap ass can confirm. :D I can't wait to get back. -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Sat, July 12, 2008 - 3:10 PMI can't wait til you get back either! :)
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 3:37 PMShowing up in douchebag attire doesn't count either. Pastel polo with the collars popped, baggy shorts and tennis shoes, ugh... how unimaginative, even for a typical mission street bar.
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Fri, June 27, 2008 - 8:49 AMYou could close the doors at 1:30...
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 6:34 PM<<So says the newest e-mail announcement ...
Don't you think we should see them in their underwear before deciding this?>>
Probably good news since more than half the time my underwear is at home ;)
then again I am not the worlds biggest fan of costumes either -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Fri, June 27, 2008 - 12:43 PMThe creativity that people put into their costumes is an essential part of the recipe of Kinky Salon. It means that they have put some thought, some intention, and some care into preparing for the evening. It means they arrive excited and feeling like they have something to share. It creates a positive atmosphere and is a great conversation starter. It means the people become the theme, and they feel a sense of community because they look around and everyone there has gone to the same effort they did. It means that when you walk in the front door you senses are assaulted with a colorful, ridiculous montage of costumed freaks.
Asking people who arrive at the door who are not dressed up to strip to their underwear has only happened a couple of times, and ONLY if they arrive with a group of people who *are* dressed.
Rule of thumb: arrive in costume *then* strip -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Sat, June 28, 2008 - 4:15 PMUhm ... we all knew that I was just teasing, right? -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Sun, June 29, 2008 - 3:15 AMSorry to see the club kids think stripping down is all that Mission Control is all about. It's the down side of a few more commercial partnerships, but fortunately some quality people working the door/event keep things from getting out of hand.
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Sun, June 29, 2008 - 8:30 AMCostuming is an awesome way to pre-party that's much more fun than standing around at a bar. At this point, I'm sure we as a group have infinite combinations of fun stuff to wear, just waiting to be ensembled upon new bodies. Perhaps we can take it upon ourselves, as crackin' Pals, to let no saloner undergo the embarassment of arriving undecorated. -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Mon, June 30, 2008 - 8:28 PM"Uhm ... we all knew that I was just teasing, right?"
yes
but I am loving the dialog!
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Tue, July 8, 2008 - 2:56 PM<<Costuming is an awesome way to pre-party that's much more fun than standing around at a bar.>> AGREED! AGREED! AGREED!
Part of what I enjoy so much about a KS evening is the "Barbie" session before we leave home. Crank the bad-ass tunes, mix a tasty cocktail and start rummaging thru the closet, auditioning outfits to the bf, getting a yay or nay.... This often takes hours, and I wouldn't miss this part of the evening for the world.
Furthermore, being "costumed" helps free people of their inhibitions. Being "someone else" is a sure antidote to the uncertainty of being in a strange environment with people you don't know, doing things that are otherwise socially unacceptable in most any other environment. -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Wed, July 9, 2008 - 9:42 AMCostuming for me has been part of my life for over 30 years now!
it gives me great happiness to express myself creatively in this way
and it gives me permission to explore identity in creative ways
I never see it as 'being someone else', rather bringing some part of myself to light that hasn't come out and played before
Identity is SUCH a fluid, multi-faceted thing, you know?
I love having my assumptions about who i am (especially around sexuality) challenged at Kinky Salon.
The prep time for me IS essential, part of the ritual, where i take time to remind myself about what is important, what am i taking into the evening. how am i feeling that night?
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Wed, July 9, 2008 - 1:31 PMIt sounds we're all preaching the choir, 'cuz I'm guessing everyone here appreciates the costumery and outfit-selection process.
It's the people not in on this conversation that are the most likely offenders of wearing jeans to an ABSOLUTELY-NO-JEANS! party. -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Wed, July 16, 2008 - 12:22 PMIt is important to keep revisiting these things , Weazie, because we have a lot of newbies always coming through the community
and keeping these dialogues going is essential
AND
I will be on the door on saturday working with the door people to make sure that their is no 'strip to your under wear' decisions going on
unless its a hoary toothed beast stripping me down to my PANTS OF POWER with their fangs
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Wed, July 16, 2008 - 2:18 PMThere's new people joining tribe? ;p
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, July 17, 2008 - 8:04 AMWell, I haven't been to a ks yet. The rules forbidding single men keep me out until I find a date.
I was under the impression that these were play parties, tending toward sex party more than bdsm party, but bdsm accepting.
However, the emphasis here on costumes, where people are spending time on elaborate costumes for the sake of social appearances, costumes one presumes they'll be reluctant to doff for any reason, suggests a more play discouraging event.
Has KS changed in tone? Is the current goal for a more "stand and model" tone of event? Or did I misunderstand the goal from the past? -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, July 17, 2008 - 9:53 AMI wouldn't say there's an emphasis on costumes, just that they're part of the fun. KS only has a rule of no street clothes and that's leaves open a lot of options.
As far as a "stand and model tone," the times I've been to KS I haven't gotten that vibe so I think it's possible your perception of the events are a bit off the mark.
Lastly, single men aren't forbidden. You can bring a friend and get in. Or, like me, you can VOLUNTEER!
KS is more inclusive than you may think. -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 2:51 PM"Lastly, single men aren't forbidden. You can bring a friend and get in. Or, like me, you can VOLUNTEER! "
Apparently so now. I hadn't heard about the change in policy.
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, July 17, 2008 - 4:25 PM"However, the emphasis here on costumes, where people are spending time on elaborate costumes for the sake of social appearances, costumes one presumes they'll be reluctant to doff for any reason, suggests a more play discouraging event."
I for one do not put together a costume for the sake of social appearance, I wear one to intensify the atmosphere of the event, sort of like everyone bringing a dish to a potluck. To the reluctance to doff, um yeah no, not so much. I make it a point to invite people to help me remove my costume and in turn encourage others to do the same, thus encouraging a LOT of play! -
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 7:40 AM"I for one do not put together a costume for the sake of social appearance, I wear one to intensify the atmosphere of the event, sort of like everyone bringing a dish to a potluck."
OMG. Potluck KS. :D
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Re: Stripping to your underwear is not an outfit!
Thu, July 17, 2008 - 1:11 AMI would rather think that the nature of the underwear is the most important factor, hm?